Also, there are weapons don't just take the form of guns. They can be many things, such as shoe, bat, ashtray, vehicle, or just a person's hands, depending upon the size, training, situation, etc. I do think it's easy for people to sit back and state that something is unjustified, but most of them are unqualified to do so. Some police departments are offering to put members of the press and other 'community leaders' in a simulated environment to help them understand how difficult the determination can be. I respect their desire to do so, but in my opinion, that step shouldn't be necessary. However, it is nice to hear participants stating that they were overwhelmed, that the situation unfolded quickly, and that they would have taken the same action that they had previously denounced. I think community leaders should be preaching cooperation with law enforcement. If there is an issue of overzealousness on the part of the police, that can be addressed later, after they've cooperated, and the facts are known, but once someone is dead, because s/he refused to cooperate, or made officers feel their lives or someone else's life was in danger, it could be too late.